Dr. Matthew Tuttle
940 East 3rd St. #12
Long Beach, CA 90802
mpt145@hotmail.com
Dear Dr. Horowitz,
First I want to thank you for your volumes of much needed work. I
read Healing Codes cover to cover and it was the best book, aside from the bible of course, that I have ever read! I am a Chiropractic Doctor and more over an Applied Kinesiologist (muscle tester). I was surprised and affirmed by your comments about this. Anyways, I NEED more information so I ordered just about everything on your website =). I have read some VERY challenging things form you, considering I have been a born again Christian since I was a child. I have tried hard to keep an open mind because you know SO much more than me and obviously have a MUCH closer relationship with YaHVaH and YahShuah than I do (I didn’t even know their real names).
Realizing this, it would be foolish of me to discount what you are
saying. I have also read your comments and responses to many
” fundamentalist” letters. I like your responses but I still have one
question that weighs heavily on me. This “almost” made me write you off as a “whacko” when reading the preface to the Healing Codes when you said I have news for many so called fundamentalist Christians who believe they have to only way to salvation (badly paraphrased). Again, on your website it seemed as though you were saying that your Islam and Native American brothers and sisters will also receive salvation (again not your exact words but I think that’s what you’re saying). Considering Muhammad doesn’t believe YahShuah was the Christ or that he
was ever raised from the dead and that to my knowledge Native Americans are as pagan as the Romans and don’t believe in Christ and are Pantheists, are they “saved”. By the way, I am part native American, Choctaw.
Can their names be written in the lamb’s book of life when Christ
said “I AM, the way, the truth and the life and no man come the Father but by me.” John 14:6
Furthermore, I was listening to your end times preparedness,
propaganda and prophecy tape and Pastor Norm Franz quoted this exact verse in reference to the Islamic Indonesian leader. He said basically the same thing that I am now, and I noticed you were curiously silent making no response.
I don’t have anywhere near the knowledge of the scripture that you do, heck I’ve read the King James all my life and can’t even read Hebrew, Arabic, Greek nothing! But given that verse I am very confused as to how anyone can be saved without Christ, even our orthodox Jewish brothers.
Please understand I hold you in the highest regards and would greatly appreciate your response so I could maybe have some understanding on your seemingly confusing stance?
Your response would be greatly appreciated.
Yours in Christ,
Dr. Matthew Tuttle
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> Dear Dr. Matthew Tuttle,
Your letter is beautiful and well appreciated. Thank you for your very kind words.
I am obviously not the final judge, and we are cautioned “Judge ye not, lest ye be judged!” So it really doesn’t matter what I BELIEVE, perceive, or judge to be the Truth.
But here’s my sense (not firm conviction).
I humbly submit that the only discrepancy between YahShuah/Yeshua being the “One” and only “Way,” and the Christian fundamentalist exclusivity doctrine, is in the deceived mind of those who call themselves ” Christians” who are not. The Messiah warned “The traditions of men make the Word to no avail.” I believe this is the case with the exclusivity dogma. It is precisely this exclusivity doctrine that makes so many “Bible thumping” Christians so disrespected and condemned by their “neighbors” who the Ten Commandments states we should love as much as our selves.
I have thought long and hard on this issue. In my humble opinion as a Jew and Christian, I must conclude that since there is only one Creator– YahVah, only one Son (YahShuah, some write Yeshua–which literally translated from the Hebrew means “God Saves” not “Jesus Saves”) only one Holy Spirit (that YahVah said would be poured out in the End Times to ALL people, there must also be only one Way. That reconciles what the Messiah said and taught in John 14:6 and elsewhere.
But contrary to fundamentalist exclusivity doctrine, His one Way is of the heart and spirit, not mind and belief systems.
As Doctor Puleo so rightly restated from the Bible, “‘Know ye of God, yet God ye not know…’ It’s a matter of ‘points of reference’.” The problem, as I see it, is with one’s personal frame of reference, not seeing the forest of YahVah’s cohesive Truth and universe, and brotherhood of humanity, because of the trees of egocentric dogma and psychological warfare orchestrated by the leading devil-doers representing all religions, nations, and political persuasions here on Babylonian earth.
Therefore, I am simply unwilling to judge, condemn, or even persuade others who have not accepted, as I have, Yeshua as their personal Lord and Savior. I am not their final judge, and I believe, as much scripture indicates, the Messiah will be returning for all faithful seekers of the one Way/Truth.
I also recommend those afflicted with this egocentric, dogmatic,
desensitizing, de-spiritualizing, socially-antagoning position that
they read the Messiah’s words, closely following John 14:6. In John 14:12 He says, “Yes, indeed! I tell you that whoever trusts in me will also do the works I do! Indeed, he will do greater ones . . .” Who in fundamentalist Christianity can claim to have done this? Very few.
I believe we stand on the brink of the “End Times,” and this verse too is being fulfilled. But I honestly do not see “fundamentalist
Christians” stepping up en masse to do this work. In fact, I see the opposite. More “New Age” people are entering this promised-land while most Baptists believe that laying on of hands for healing, much like you do in your chiropractic and kinesiology practice, is blasphemous.
In fact, I believe that kinesiology, among the primary reasons why it works, is because it is a form of divining, a gift that YahVah
cautioned he would take away from those who misused it for egocentric self-aggrandizement. But try to convince most fundamentalist Christians that divining, and related radionics and electro-medicine, is not of the devil and you hit a brick wall.
Yeshua warned, “My people die of lack of applied knowledge.” Thus, final judgment is coming upon America’s Christian community along with all the rest who have been deceived into thinking their dogma, including that issued by medical deities (M.D.s) promoting vaccinations and drugs, is the one right Way.
With your permission, Matthew, I would greatly appreciate your consent to reprint your letter and this reply on our website for the hundreds of others who have asked me the same question.
Much love always,
Len Horowitz, D.M.D., M.A., M.P.H.
Reply from Dr. Tuttle
Dear Dr. Horowitz
First let me thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to respond to me. It’s nice to know that an icon like yourself is accessible to everyday people.
It seems clear to me that you have separate definitions for “Christian” and “fundamentalist Christian.” I am now aware that what I am used to thinking of as a fundamentalist Christian isn’t necessarily what you are talking about when you say “fundamentalist Christian.” You have my permission to post my e-mail and response on your website so long as you do not group me in with the “letters from fundamentalist Christian’s section.” I don’t feel it would be fair to stereotype me or my letter like that, and I know how you feel about stereotyping classes of people.
It seems ironic to me that the more I learn and the more I seek for answers, the more questions I find. Sadly, it seems that I have many questions that only YaHVaH himself can answer. I thank you for telling me your sense, not firm conviction, but I can not agree with you on several points. I suppose it matters little though, as what you OR I believe, perceive or judge to be the truth does not really matter as we are not the final judge anyway. In light of that I humbly submit these points for you review.
I agree that there must be some alternative means of salvation other than the belief that the Christ YahShuah, our savior, the only begotten son of YaHVaH, died for our sins so that we might be acceptable to Him. After all there are people all over the world who lived and died without ever hearing of YahShuah (Jesus) or YaHVaH (the one God) like the Native Americans, South Americans, Polynesians, etc. God wouldn’t have created these multitudes of people just to give them eternal damnation with no hope of redemption. After all, God said that no man will stand before Him with an excuse. For these people God must have provided some alternative form of salvation.
However, with the nation of Islam I can not believe that they are saved. I have to share the stance of Pastor Norm Franz on this one. Very simply, they reject YahShuah as the Christ, the Savior, and the Son of God and have instead chosen to place Muhammad in His place.
” For there are three that bear witness in heaven the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7. This being the case, where as some civilization never heard of Christ, the Muslims heard the Word and rejected it. They knew of YahShuah and rejected him and therefore rejected God.
As for the New Agars, Mohamed, Buddha, Gandhi and others…. Yes they were great men, maybe even prophets as some claim and you could stack their deeds a mile high to be sure, but that is salvation by works. This brings up an interesting point: the rift between James and Paul.
I have always been taught and believed that salvation is by belief (belief that YahShuah’s blood washed us clean of our sins and his Godly sacrifice reconciled us with YaHVaH) not by works. Maybe what James said is true that our deeds are more important than our beliefs. However, “For all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.” Romans 3:23 and “The wages of sin is Death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” Romans 6:23. This leads to the conclusion that we are all lost without YahShua as referenced in Romans 3:10-12 (all of Romans 3 is good reading) “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one……there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:20 “Therefore by the law
there shall be no flesh justified in his sight….”
No matter how hard I or anyone else tries to be good and do what is right we all will fail and sin, because that is the nature of man. It has been that way since the fall of man as I understand it. As much as I want to do what is right all the time, if that is my only way to heaven I am doomed to hell.
So, my sense, not firm conviction is that my salvation rests upon this: I, myself am “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:24 and again in John 3:16.
Now, following John 3:16 with verses 17 and 18. “For God sent His Son into the world not to condemn the world: but that through him the world might be saved. He that believes on Him is not condemned: but he that does not believe on him is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” Given this, can we believe that Muslims and any of the innumerable factions of new agers and Buddhists and others be saved?
I need to qualify all of this by saying that I listened to your audio tape package “Why it’s time for Jews and Christians to unite.” Wonderful series, outstanding! As you know, most of my references are in Romans, a Pauline book. So if what the tape says is true, then I have to throw all of those arguments out the window. In fact, I think all of my verses are discounted if those tapes are correct. This brings up many other questions only YaHVaH can answer: what in the New Testament am I to believe? Am I only to believe the book of James? If what those tapes say is true then the Bible isn’t perfect and is in fact very fallible and full of contradictions, yet the bible is supposed to be the perfect inspired word of God. So what am I to
believe? How do I know what in the New Testament is truth and what is lie?
If the previous statements are true then what about when God promised to preserve his word? We need discernment from the Spirit but even when we do that, we all disagree right down to the taldim (the apostles).
Like I said, more questions than answers and (like you said too) not of great importance since our personal views aren’t the ones that really counts.
Thank you for listening to my ramblings.
Lastly, if I may humbly submit one piece of advice with love. Try not to be so hard on those you call “fundamentalist Christians” as they too are our brothers and sisters. No matter how short sighted some of them may be, we all have our short comings. Most of them have such firm convictions because of YaHVaHs greatest commandment to love our neighbors as ourselves, not in spite of it. For them to be less is to let there loved ones go into what they believe is eternal damnation. Also, when people who don’t know your definition of “fundamentalist Christians” hear what you have to say about them, you shut off a large audience who desperately needs to hear your important message (especially my family members).
With much love and respect,
Dr. Matthew Tuttle D.C.
Dear Dr. Tuttle,
Thank you for your permission to post your letter(s). I will gladly comply with your request, and I only do this because of my firm conviction that YaHVaH wants his remnant reconciling their differences.
I believe, my brother, that we really don’t disagree at all, but it only seems we do.
But before I get to that, I want to acknowledge your thoughtfulness as you provide, in this regard, an excellent model for everyone who calls themselves “Christians.” You obviously have the heart of King Solomon in seeking wisdom before anything else. I congratulate you for your efforts in seeking and sharing the Truth.
Your agreement that “there must be some alternative means of salvation other than the belief that the Christ YahShuah, our savior, the only begotten son of YaHVaH, died for our sins so that we might be acceptable to Him.”
The more Christians grasping this, the closer we are to having Christians and Jews uniting as prophesied.
In terms of your disagreement concerning Muslims, again, to my knowledge, contrary to your belief, Muslims are taught to accept YaHShuah as a legitimate Messiah, the only begotten Son of God.
If fact, and I hate to use this as a source, the current issue of Newsweek (February 11, 2002 “The Bible and the Qur’an: Searching the Holy Books for Roots of Conflict & Seeds of Reconciliation” states that Muslims do not place their major prophet, Muhammad, above the stature of YahShuah. Muhammad is recognized as a prophet blessed by the angel Gabriel, to deliver God’s word and lead Muslims from polytheism and paganism to alliance with Jewish/Christian monotheism. They hold YahShuah in equal esteem. According to a personal conversation I had with Minister Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam differs with the rest of the Muslim world in accepting YahShuah as the Messiah who will return.
Jewish people have been taught to reject this notion entirely. At this point, most don’t even consider YahShuah anything other than a learned Rabbi. Thus, the theological gap between Jews and Christians may be wider than between Muslims and Christians. Interesting isn’t it?
As for the New Agers, most came from Christianity and Judaism to become New Agers. Most New Agers I know, believe YahShuah was the Son of God, and still pray to YaHVaH in the name of the Son.
This gets me back to the NAME. His name says it ALL. Literally translated from Hebrew it means “God Saves.” I believe every other point you raise can be reconciled from this one greatest TRUTH that Jews, Christians and Muslims alike accept. So why all the fuss?
Because we’ve been separated by traditional dogmas that the Messiah warned us would cut us off from The Word, the Truth, and from God.
Indeed, James was absolutely right by saying our deeds are more important than our beliefs. Our beliefs too often reflect doctrines and dogmas that lie outside the Truth and the Word. “Ye shall know them by the fruits of their labor.” People caught up in exclusivity doctrines commonly violate other people’s deserved respect.
If I had a dime for every Christian I’ve met who has become royally discouraged with “Christianity” because of the “Bible thumpers” who, in the name of Christ and spiritual salvation, hit people over the head with misinterpreted verses to justify their own mistaken beliefs, I would be a multi-millionaire. “Ye shall know them by the fruits of their labor.” Should we not discern between these “Christians” for undermining Christianity itself, as compared with other Christians who teach by example, bearing the fruits of brotherly love and reconciliation?
You wrote, “The wages of sin is Death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord” Romans 6:23. This leads to the conclusion that we are all lost without YahShua as referenced in Romans 3:10-12 (all of Romans 3 is good reading)
Substitute for YahShua’s name its meaning and His main message: “God Saves.” Now you can legitimately interpret salvation as a function of diligent and high integrity monotheism and law keeping.
This applies again when you write, “So, my sense, . . . is that my salvation rests upon this: I, myself am “Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.” Romans 3:24 and again in John 3:16. Substitute “God Saves” for the meaning of “Christ Jesus” and you come to the same Truth.
Your question regarding non-Christian souls being saved referring to
John 3:16 with verses 17 and 18. “For God sent His Son into the world not to condemn the world . . . but he that does not believe on him is condemned already, because he has not believed in THE NAME of the only begotten Son of God.”
Again, my analysis applies. Why should be judge or “condemn” anyone, Muslims, new agers, Buddists, etc. regarding their salvation when the simple act of doing this violates The Word, The Truth, The One Way . . . It’s a trap! Get it? Exclusivity doctrine is simply a belief that brings about wars and hatred in direct opposition to monotheism which strives to fulfill 2 Corinthians 5:17:
“Therefore, if anyone is [truly] united with the Messiah, he is a new creation-the old has passed; look, what has come is fresh and new! And it is all from God, who through the Messiah has reconciled us to himself and has given us the work of that reconciliation, which is that God in the Messiah was reconciling mankind to himself. . . .”
Notice that the ultimate goal is to have us reconcile ourselves to ourselves. That is, our Divine link to the One Creator, thus to each other through Him and His Son.
It is sad that “Christians” have such a hard time getting this fundamental truth, along with other pagans who have substituted their Bible interpretations-false beliefs-for the most important work to be done, and fruits to bear.
Your ramblings are greatly appreciated. I hope these and my posted responses will plant many seeds that will grow into a great sweet harvest of fruit.
Finally, though your point is well taken concerning me shutting off large needy Christian audiences, don’t feel too bad about me confronting those that call themselves “fundamentalist Christians” with zeal. YaHShuah vented even more forcefully when confronted by the hypocrisy of His day, especially in the temple–that is, among those who preached religion and practiced greed and paganism with Caesar’s face on their gold coins.
With much love and respect,
Len Horowitz